Exploring Prophetic Mysteries
With Daniel Speck 7.8.10
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...but examine everything carefully... I Thessalonians 5:21
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Why not just go along?
So why not just go along with the Pre-
A secret, invisible return of Jesus?
Our first challenge is to find where a invisible return of Jesus is taught in the Scripture. I’ll save you some time; there is no Scripture that says there will be an invisible return of Christ. Not even one that might be interpreted that way. The return of Christ is only described as glorious, loud, and witnessed by all the world.
Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luke 21:27
For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God... I Thessalonians 4:16
...the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire... II Thessalonians 1:7
...looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13
In fact, the Scriptures actually warn Christians about being fooled by false rumors of a secret coming that is not visible to everyone.
“Behold I have told you in advance. So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the
wilderness,’ do not go out, or ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe
them. For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west,
so will the coming of the Son of Man be.” Matthew 24:25-
The sudden disappearance of Christians?
Not in the Bible either. The Scriptures describing the Rapture never mention that believers are suddenly going to disappear without the rest of the world seeing them or realizing what is happening. There is no Scriptural reason to not assume that the Rapture will be seen by everyone on earth just as the appearing of Christ on the clouds will be.
Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Revelation 1:7
Every single person in the world will see Jesus when He comes on the clouds and will realize exactly what that means in terms of impending judgment.
...and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire...when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who believe. II Thessalonians 1:7,10.
It is clear that Paul is telling the Church to expect relief from their afflictions
when the Lord Jesus is revealed with His mighty angels, not secretly coming without
visible glory. If this Scripture were referring to a post-
When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory. Colossians 3:4
The Church will also be revealed when Christ is revealed in glory, because every will eye will see Him and obviously see the raptured Church as well.
There is absolutely nothing that must occur before Jesus returns?
The Apostle Paul must not have gotten that memo:
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure
or be disturbed by either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to
the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you,
for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness
is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-
Clearly stated by Paul here is the fact that the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him will not come until the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, exalts himself above all gods and takes his seat in the Temple as God. It just cannot get any more clear than this. This is a simple, straightforward statement of Scripture that the coming of Christ and the Rapture will not take place until the apostasy occurs and the Antichrist is revealed and seats himself in the Temple to declare himself God. No one has to speculate or read anything into this Scripture; it is stated very plainly.
A list of some of the events that were prophesied to take place before the Appearing and Rapture:
Christians will be kept from tribulation and suffering?
Those who teach a Pre-
“In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33.
Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. Matthew 24:9
Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Just as it is written, “For you sake we are being put to death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” Romans 8:35
In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you
have been distressed by various trials, so that the proof of you faith, being more
precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found
to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. I Peter
1:6-
Beloved do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for
your testing, as though something strange were happening to you; but to the degree
that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation
of His glory you may rejoice with exultation. I Peter 4:12-
Therefore, we ourselves speak proudly of you among the churches of God for your perseverance
and faith in the midst of all your persecutions and afflictions which you endure.
This is a plain indication of God’ righteous judgment so that you will be considered
worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. II Thessalonians
1:4-
“Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold the devil is going to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for 10 days. Be faithful unto death and I will give you the crown of life.” Revelation 2:10
Some of the purposes of tribulation, persecution and suffering for believers are:
1. To prove our faith
2. To glorify and honor Christ
3. To be considered worthy of the Kingdom of God
4. To test us
5. To cause us to bear more fruit
6. To make us more like Christ
7. To give us an opportunity to testify
The Great Multitude in Revelation 7 is not the Church?
Another common teaching among pre-
...a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb...”These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Revelation 7:9,14
It is clear from these verses that the Great Multitude who come out of the Great
Tribulation are Gentile believers in Jesus Christ from all over the world. What can
you call such a body of believers except the Church? Explaining away such an obvious
contradiction of the pre-
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The Second Coming and Rapture can only happen in absolute imminence?
Imminence is another of the cornerstones of the Pre-
It is clear that the arrival of the Lord Jesus will, as He tells us, be like a thief in the night, suddenly and unexpectedly, but these warnings are largely meant for unbelievers, not for believers and refer to the day and hour, not the season or year.
While they are saying “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly
like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you brethren,
are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief. I Thessalonians
5:3-
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. Mark 14:37
We see from Luke 21 that all the events preceding the coming of Christ -
But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. Luke 21:28
Matthew 24 is not talking about the Church?
Extreme Dispensationalists as well as most pre-
His disciples came to Him privately... Matthew 24:3 The Mount of Olive prophecies were not spoken to Israel publicly but privately to the Christ’s disciples, the foundation of the Church.
“See to it that no one misleads you... You will be hearing of wars and rumors of
wars...they will deliver you to tribulation...when you see the Abomination of Desolation...
Behold I have told you in advance...” Matthew 24:1-
The Last Days Church is the Philadelphia church promised to escape the Tribulation?
Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Revelation 3:10.
That is another assumption that is not supported by the text but comes only from
pre-
The Mystery of God is not yet finished at the Second Coming and the Rapture?
According to Revelation 10, the Mystery of God, which is Christ and the Church (Ephesians
3:3-
When the Apostle John went up into heaven in the Spirit, that was a type of the Pre
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After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the
first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said,”Come
up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things, Immediately
I was in the Spirit...” Revelation 4:1-
Sounds a little like the Rapture but John is taken up only in the Spirit, not bodily.
There is no sound of a trumpet; only a voice like a trumpet. There is another rapture-
“But after three and a half days, the breath of life from God came into them. And
they stood on their feet; and great fear fell upon those who were watching them.
And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” Then they
went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies watched them. Revelation 11:11-
Like the Rapture of the Church, this is a bodily resurrection and rapture, clearly visible to unbelievers as they went up into heaven. This event is followed “quickly” by the Seventh Trumpet; a literal last trumpet. Of these two different events, only the rapture of the Two Witnesses is a genuinely literal description of a rapture and could be legitimately tied to the universal rapture of the Church.
The Tribulation is the wrath and judgment of God?
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For God has not destined us for wrath... I Thessalonians 5:9
The wrath of God does not begin until after Christ appears and the Church is gathered into heaven but this does not occur until the Seventh Trumpet. The Tribulation is not the wrath of God, but is the, “...hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” (Revelation 3:10). The Seven Golden Bowls of God’s Wrath (notice the exact same language is used: the wrath of God) officially begins the judgment of God on the world and this occurs after Christ appears, the Rapture happens, and the Tribulation is over. Testing is not wrath or judgment. Believers will certainly be tested (I Peter 4:12) but wrath and judgment are for unbelievers only.
“...but in those days, after that tribulation...they will see the Son of Man coming
in clouds with great power and glory...and will gather together His elect from the
four winds... Mark 13:24-
Dispensational theology demands that the Church be gathered up before Daniel’s 70th week?
Dispensational theology teaches that Israel and the Church are of two distinct dispensations. The Church did not replace Israel and God will turn back to deal exclusively with Israel once the Church is gathered up. While it is certainly true that Israel and the Church are distinct dispensations in God’s plan, there is nothing in the Scripture that states the Church cannot still be here during Daniel’s seventh week (the Tribulation). Once the Church is gathered at the Seventh Trumpet, the Lord will indeed deal exclusively with Israel again. There is nothing in Scripture that demands that the Church and Israel cannot coexist during the Tribulation as they did during the first century when the Temple and Temple worship were still intact. We also see in Revelation 12 that Israel and the Church are mentioned as being on earth together when Israel flees to her prepared retreat in the wilderness for 3 ½ years: “So the dragon was enraged with the woman (Israel), and went off to make war against the rest of her children (the Church) who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 12:17.
Only obedient Christians will be considered worthy of the Pre-
Some Pre-
This false teaching really comes from an inaccurate translation by the King James, which reads: “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:36. But the NASB says: “that you may have strength to escape,” and even the margin notes of the NKJV says, “have strength to.” This more accurate translation of the Greek to “have strength” changes the whole meaning of the verse. If believers are not even going to be here during the Tribulation, why would they need to pray for strength to escape “all these things?”
It is clear that all believers, no matter what their personal situation will never come under the judgment or wrath of God.
“Truly, Truly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.” John 5:24
Paul make no such distinction between caught up and “left behind” Christians in any
of his descriptions of the Rapture. If this doctrine were true, wouldn’t he make
it clear that any true believer not living an exemplary life will be left behind
at the Rapture? This doctrine also flies in the face of grace through faith, and
the power of Christ’s blood to completely atone for sin, suggesting a two class system
for born-
In their efforts to try and satisfy some the the Biblical contradictions of a Pre-
The Holy Spirit is the Restrainer who will be taken out of the way before the Tribulation?
And you know what restrains him (the Beast) now so that in his time he will be revealed...he
who restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. II Thessalonians 2:6-
The Holy Spirit is absolutely not the Restrainer. This is another assumption that
is unsupported by the text. Nowhere do these Scriptures say or even suggest that
the Restrainer is either the Holy Spirit or the Church or that the Restrainer will
not be still be here during the Tribulation period. This assumption was specifically
crafted to fit the pre-
144,000 “Evangelists”?
“Evangelists” is a common label that the most popular prophecy teachers affix to
the 144,000. The problem with this characterization is that nowhere in the text are
they called evangelists or anything similar, neither are they ever described as doing
evangelism. Even though many seem to be absolutely convinced about this assumption,
this must be categorized as pure speculation. It is another of those teachings by
pre-
The last trumpet cannot be the Seventh Trumpet of Revelation?
This is another assumption as an attempt to solve an obvious Scriptural contradiction
to the pre-
God completes His purposes in sevens: the seven days of Creation, the Seventh day of rest, the seven lights of the Menorah, the seven Churches, the seven seals, trumpets, and bowls of Revelation, etc; so by definition the last trumpet can be none other than the Seventh Trumpet.
Behold I tell you a mystery, we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet... I Corinthians 15:52.
The Tribulation is the Day of the Lord?
According to most Pre-
“I will display display wonders in the sky and on the earth, blood and fire and columns
of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon into blood before the great
and awesome day of the Lord comes.” Joel 2:30-
The same basic description is used in Revelation 6 which occurs at the end of the Great Tribulation:
I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood; and the stars of the sky fell to earth... Revelation 6:12.
Matthew 24 tells us that these heavenly signs will occur immediately after the Tribulation and so would also place the Day of the Lord right after the end of the Tribulation.
“But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky...and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. Matthew 24:29,30.
These Scriptures clearly shows that the Day of the Lord does not begin until after
the heavenly signs occur and Jesus appears on the clouds and so the Tribulation cannot
be the Day of the Lord as taught by Pre-
The Prophetic Types of the Hebrew Scriptures teach a Pre-
The story of the battle of Jericho puts the last nail in the coffin of the pre-
...when the people heard the sound of the trumpet (the seventh trumpet on the seventh
day -
Joshua said to the two men who had spied out the land, “Go into the harlot’s house and bring the woman and all that she has out of there, as you have sworn to her.” Joshua 6:22
Can anyone come to believe in a Pre-
No. A Pre-
Once the dominos of unbiblical claims start to fall from the false Pre-
Summary
The popular Pre-
Disclaimer: There are many good evangelical ministries and schools that teach a pre-
See also The Seventh Trumpet Rapture , The Restrainer and Last Days Scripture References
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